This video shows the response of people of all different backgrounds when asked questions about racial issues. What is racism? Do you see racism in your daily life? Are there racial double standards in American society?
This video is a must see for anybody interested in racial issues in our world. Race is a taboo subject all over the world, if we are to find justice, this must change now!
Friday, June 5, 2009
A Conversation About Race
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Labels: Liberalism, Mainstream Politics, National-Anarchism, Political Correctness, YouTube
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Hi Scott!
Seeing as you are so very interested in this topic, here are just a few links you might find ever so informative:
http://illvox.org/articles/
http://racetraitor.org/
http://theangryblackwoman.com/required-reading/
http://www.timwise.org/ (check out the reading list!)
I sincerely hope that one day you can learn some basic skills of critical analysis, instead of poorly veiling your irrational fear and prejudice in pseudo-rational and logically fallacious arguments, and taking such trashy material such as this documentary at face value.
You are right though - there must be something in the water in Geelong.
Many anti-racist, queer-friendly, and anti-fascist hugs and kisses, you silly sausage!
(P.S. I can kind of understand your repressed and misguided love of Nazis...after all, we all love a man in uniform!)
G'day Anonymous!
I'm familiar with Race Traitor and I'm sure I've stumbled across TheAngryBlackWoman before. The other two I'm not so familiar with but I've bookmarked them and I'll take a look when I have time.
I'm hoping you can tell me what is so wrong about white people discussing racial issues? Why is it fine for non-whites to discuss race and even for People of Colour anarchist groups to hold meetings to the exclusion of white people? Isn't that a racial double standard and racist?!
How can we confront the issues surrounding race if only some people are allowed to discuss it openly? If you're going to continue commenting on this blog, please actually respond to what I say.
Fluoridation begins 22nd June, against the will of the people, will you be joining the campaign to resist it?
Many anti-imperialist and non-dogmatic huggles right back! Don't worry, I won't tell your buddies.
Hope to hear back from you soon.
Scott.
You're not fooling anybody, Scott Harrison.
I am fully aware, as are many others, of your Nazi past, your disgusting posts on the Stormfront forums, your history of physical violence against anti-fascists and your persistent racism, homophobia and sexism. All have been duly documented.
When it comes to perpetuating lies about 'race', you're as dogmatic as they come.
Your understanding of white privilege and how it functions in capitalist society is extremely minimal, if not non-existent. People of colour have persistently been denied access to the public sphere, characterised as the 'other', and systematically oppressed and excluded for centuries. They continue to be today. Institutional racism directed against people of colour persists in all spheres of contemporary society. APOC meetings held to discuss how people of colour can challenge white privilege in the anarchist movement as well as in society at large make sense. What contribution could a someone who is white, without any experience of such oppression, contribute to such a discussion? It is the same principle which applies to women's groups and queer groups - sometimes they need to discuss their issues with people who can relate to their oppression, as a way of moving forward together and reclaiming some collective strength to challenge hierarchical structures of privilege. It's not a double standard - It's an application of freedom of association. How is it a double-standard when these groups have been historically and continue to be systematically excluded from participation in society by 'heterosexual', white males? Furthermore, APOC do not pursue separatism as part of their platform - it is not part of their vision for society. Anarchist people of colour realise that 'race' is a lie, and they seek to abolish rather than perpetuate divisions in society based upon such a categorisation. Organising with other people of colour to do this is in no way contradictory. Just as the working class is the only class which can create a revolution to overthrow capitalism, so people of colour should be the group who define the struggle against the racism which they face. Why should such a struggle be dominated by white people, who are the beneficiaries of white privilege and the oppression of people of colour?
And don't be fooled - simply because racism doesn't exist on Hitlerian levels today, it doesn't mean that it's not widespread and deeply ingrained.
Furthermore, people of colour who are able attain positions of power - a key example being Barack Obama - can do so only through their ability to transcend 'blackness' and its socially-constructed, stereotypical attributes. Such people are, as the saying goes, black on the outside and white on the inside.
Returning to your fallacious claim of 'double-standards' in the way APOC organise some of their meetings:
Apply your logic to another hypothetical situation - would it be a 'double-standard' for the CEO of Mcdonalds to be denied attendance to a meeting a meeting of a radical union (e.g. the IWW)? And would such a denial imply that the workers desire to perpetuate the divide between the bourgeoisie and the workers? No. They simply see the need to organise collectively in order to challenge oppressive, hierarchical structures (in this case, in the workplace and economy) so that in the future, we can all live together without class divisions.
Your logic is flawed.
'Race' is, and has always been a lie manufactured by ruling elites to divide people and divert attention away from the real sources of oppression and domination. 'Race' - not racism - is a social construct. Until you can come to terms with this elementary fact, nobody is going to take you seriously.
Wake up to yourself.
Good to see how tough you are Anonymous, how about you introduce yourself, since you're addressing me by my full name? Nah, I didn't think you would.
As far as the nazi slander goes, everybody evolves, especially in their teenage years and I'm no different. If somebody wants to hold against me the stupid crap I said when I was younger, so be it, doesn't change who I am now.
You can parrot your claims of "white privilege" all you like. I am yet to see a single example of actual racism practiced by the establishment. I am yet to see a single example of actual "white privilege," there are white people in poverty too, you know?! Do you have any examples or will you just continue repeating the same thing over and over again in the hope that somebody will believe it?
I find your logic astounding. If a black person is in poverty, they're oppressed. If a black person is successful, they're white...
It's you "left-anarchists" that are hell bent on race. You guys consider it so important that you dedicate time and effort on destroying it. If anybody has a different perspective on race, you go crazy trying to destroy them. The simple fact is, most people don't believe race is just an evil construct and in reality, the only way you could make people believe so is through authoritarian means.
Although, historically that isn't outside the norm for your sort.
Hey Anonymous,
An excerpt from the Philadelphia APOC mission statement:
"No doubt in the days since we last gathered together as APOC (Autonomous / Anarchist / Anti-Authoritarian People of Color), much has changed for each of us. We've each experienced new joys and grieves, up and downs. Across the vastness of this metropolitan wasteland, new bonds have been built, old bonds strengthened. In surviving, even thriving against the transgressions perpetrated by those who would see us torn apart, we've developed both as individuals and as a movement.
Still problems persist. Despite our best efforts, our most spirited resistance, we remain oppressed. Native land remains occupied, its people marginalized, their culture appropriated and left to die. Zionists, backed by other Western powers, continue their genocidal campaign against the Palestinian people. Gentrification continues to invade our neighborhoods. Police, ever vigilant in their protection of the ruling class, remain a brutal force separating us from our freedom. The rich still control the means of production, while the rest are exploited, forced into wage-slavery, prisons, and graves. The all-pervasive system of patriarchy still looms over and surrounds womyn, while their bodies remain battle grounds. Queers and transfolk still face violence, bashings and murders in a world hostile to all but the established norms. Billions of animals remain enslaved in chains, tanks, cages, and barns, subject to all manner of exploitation. This year, as before, the struggle continues.
Revolution, if it is to succeed, requires a coordinated, comprehensive network of dedicated revolutionaries. Of course, APOC has existed for some time now. However, we have not thus far been able to create and maintain a form suitable to our needs. Many times have we converged, many times have we expressed a desire for something more consistent. It is clear to many that what we need is an autonomous organization of sorts, perhaps many. Our intention is to make this happen."
I see nothing here that is contrary to the positions and values of National-Anarchists. However, because some National-Anarchists are Anglo-Saxons, we are still labelled "racists."
We are all exploited and oppressed by the ruling elite. I am just as much a victim of capitalism as any black or Hispanic worker. There are black people, Jewish people, homosexual people and every other so-called "minority" that make up the ruling class all anarchists oppose; yet you scapegoat "whites" as the stereotypical enemy.
It is leftists such as yourself, Anonymous, that are racists!
Scott, I'm fairly sure that Anonymous' post contains sufficient evidence to prosecute him for stalking. :)
At 10:00 minutes in, when the female states that it's wrong that she is right. Classic "white-guilt."
Blacks are loud, they speak on cell phones not to the person on the other end, but to the entire 5 block radius around them. It's not wrong, is continent wide fact. How is it biased in any regard, how is the desire for social common decency and expecting others to keep their business out of your business racist? .. absurd.
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